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| + | This page lists common Jewish objections to Christian claims about Jesus as Messiah, alongside common Christian replies. It documents disagreements and the sources each side appeals to. | ||
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| + | == Objections table == | ||
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! Typical Christian reply (with sources) | ! Typical Christian reply (with sources) | ||
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| + | | Messiah must accomplish the messianic age (peace, ingathering, Temple, universal knowledge of God) | ||
| + | | Many Jewish presentations define Messiah by public outcomes (Temple rebuilding, ingathering, peace, worldwide knowledge of God). Since this did not occur in Jesus’ lifetime, Jesus is not Messiah on that framing. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://jewsforjudaism.ca/jesus-not-jewish-messiah/ Why Jesus Is Not The Jewish Messiah], ''Jews for Judaism (Canada)'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Kings_and_Wars.11.1?lang=en Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 11:1], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | | Christians often answer with an “already/not-yet” framework: first coming (atonement), second coming (kingdom completion). | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts%201%3A11 Acts 1:11], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_one/section_two/chapter_two/article_7.html Catechism of the Catholic Church – Article 7], ''Vatican.va'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| + | | 2 | ||
| + | | “Second coming” is not a Jewish concept of Messiah | ||
| + | | Jewish critiques often reject the idea that a messianic claimant can “come back later to finish,” treating it as a Christian innovation. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/ Jews for Judaism – articles index], ''Jews for Judaism'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | | Christians treat the return of Christ as central and explicit in New Testament teaching and historic creeds. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts%201%3A11 Acts 1:11], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_one/section_two/chapter_two/article_7.html CCC Article 7], ''Vatican.va'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| 3 | | 3 | ||
| − | | Isaiah 53 is not Jesus | + | | Isaiah 53 “Suffering Servant” is Israel (or another figure), not the Messiah / not Jesus |
| − | | | + | | A common Jewish approach reads the servant corporately (Israel / righteous remnant). Rashi’s Isaiah commentary is frequently cited in modern debate. |
<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Isaiah.53.3?lang=en Rashi on Isaiah 53:3], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Isaiah.53.3?lang=en Rashi on Isaiah 53:3], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| − | + | | Christians often read Isaiah 53 as messianic and see echoes in New Testament descriptions of Jesus’ suffering. | |
| − | | Christians read | ||
<ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2%3A24-25&version=NIV 1 Peter 2:24–25], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2%3A24-25&version=NIV 1 Peter 2:24–25], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| + | | 4 | ||
| + | | Jeremiah 31 “New Covenant” is with Israel/Judah and Torah remains | ||
| + | | Jewish readings emphasize the text explicitly names Israel and Judah and describes Torah written on the heart (internalized fidelity), not replacement. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://aish.com/jeremiah-31-and-the-new-covenant/ Jeremiah 31 and the New Covenant], ''Aish'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | | Christians commonly cite Hebrews’ use of Jeremiah 31 to argue Jesus mediates the covenant’s fulfillment. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+8&version=NIV Hebrews 8], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| + | | 5 | ||
| + | | God’s unity/incorporeality: Messiah is not God; incarnation conflicts with Jewish monotheism | ||
| + | | Jewish sources emphasize God’s oneness and incorporeality; worship of a human is rejected. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Deuteronomy.6.4?lang=en Deuteronomy 6:4], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Numbers.23.19?lang=en Numbers 23:19], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-thirteen-principles-of-faith/ The Thirteen Principles of Faith], ''My Jewish Learning'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | | Christians argue the New Testament teaches Jesus’ divinity and incarnation as compatible with monotheism (Trinitarian framework). | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A1&version=NIV John 1:1], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A6-11&version=NIV Philippians 2:6–11], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| + | | Context and “proof-texting”: Christian readings detach verses from peshat | ||
| + | | Jewish critiques argue New Testament-style fulfillment readings often ignore context and peshat. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/christian-proof-texting/ Christian Proof-Texting], ''Jews for Judaism'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-bible-commentary/ Jewish Bible Commentary (approaches)], ''My Jewish Learning'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | | Christians reply that Scripture can have more than one “sense,” including typology, and that apostolic interpretation reads earlier texts in light of later revelation. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_one/section_one/chapter_two/article_3/iii_the_holy_spirit%2C_interpreter_of_scripture.html CCC 115–119], ''Vatican.va'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| + | | 7 | ||
| + | | Original sin / inherited guilt is not a Jewish doctrine | ||
| + | | Many Jewish explanations reject inherited guilt and emphasize individual responsibility. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Ezekiel.18.20?lang=en Ezekiel 18:20], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-jewish-view-of-sin/ The Jewish View of Sin], ''My Jewish Learning'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| + | | Christianity often grounds original sin in Romans 5 and summarizes it in catechesis. | ||
| + | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A12-19&version=NIV Romans 5:12–19], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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| 8 | | 8 | ||
| − | | Torah | + | | Torah tests: Deuteronomy 13 and the danger of a “sign-working” deceiver |
| − | | | + | | Some Jewish objections appeal to Deuteronomy 13: even if signs occur, if someone leads Israel away from Torah/true worship, he is rejected. |
<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Deuteronomy.13?lang=en Deuteronomy 13], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Deuteronomy.13?lang=en Deuteronomy 13], ''Sefaria'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
| − | + | | Christians reply by disputing the premise (that Jesus leads away from Torah/God), and by arguing Jesus fulfills Torah rather than annuls it. | |
| − | | Christians | ||
<ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A17-20&version=NIV Matthew 5:17–20], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | <ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A17-20&version=NIV Matthew 5:17–20], ''BibleGateway'' (accessed 2026-01-18)</ref> | ||
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Revision as of 02:23, 19 January 2026
Common Jewish objections (with sources)
This page lists common Jewish objections to Christian claims about Jesus as Messiah, alongside common Christian replies. It documents disagreements and the sources each side appeals to.
Objections table
| # | Objection (summary) | Typical Jewish framing (with sources) | Typical Christian reply (with sources) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Messiah must accomplish the messianic age (peace, ingathering, Temple, universal knowledge of God) | Many Jewish presentations define Messiah by public outcomes (Temple rebuilding, ingathering, peace, worldwide knowledge of God). Since this did not occur in Jesus’ lifetime, Jesus is not Messiah on that framing. | Christians often answer with an “already/not-yet” framework: first coming (atonement), second coming (kingdom completion). |
| 2 | “Second coming” is not a Jewish concept of Messiah | Jewish critiques often reject the idea that a messianic claimant can “come back later to finish,” treating it as a Christian innovation. | Christians treat the return of Christ as central and explicit in New Testament teaching and historic creeds. |
| 3 | Isaiah 53 “Suffering Servant” is Israel (or another figure), not the Messiah / not Jesus | A common Jewish approach reads the servant corporately (Israel / righteous remnant). Rashi’s Isaiah commentary is frequently cited in modern debate. | Christians often read Isaiah 53 as messianic and see echoes in New Testament descriptions of Jesus’ suffering. |
| 4 | Jeremiah 31 “New Covenant” is with Israel/Judah and Torah remains | Jewish readings emphasize the text explicitly names Israel and Judah and describes Torah written on the heart (internalized fidelity), not replacement. | Christians commonly cite Hebrews’ use of Jeremiah 31 to argue Jesus mediates the covenant’s fulfillment. |
| 5 | God’s unity/incorporeality: Messiah is not God; incarnation conflicts with Jewish monotheism | Jewish sources emphasize God’s oneness and incorporeality; worship of a human is rejected. | Christians argue the New Testament teaches Jesus’ divinity and incarnation as compatible with monotheism (Trinitarian framework). |
| 6 | Context and “proof-texting”: Christian readings detach verses from peshat | Jewish critiques argue New Testament-style fulfillment readings often ignore context and peshat. | Christians reply that Scripture can have more than one “sense,” including typology, and that apostolic interpretation reads earlier texts in light of later revelation. |
| 7 | Original sin / inherited guilt is not a Jewish doctrine | Many Jewish explanations reject inherited guilt and emphasize individual responsibility. | Christianity often grounds original sin in Romans 5 and summarizes it in catechesis. |
| 8 | Torah tests: Deuteronomy 13 and the danger of a “sign-working” deceiver | Some Jewish objections appeal to Deuteronomy 13: even if signs occur, if someone leads Israel away from Torah/true worship, he is rejected. | Christians reply by disputing the premise (that Jesus leads away from Torah/God), and by arguing Jesus fulfills Torah rather than annuls it. |
Notes
- ↑ Why Jesus Is Not The Jewish Messiah, Jews for Judaism (Canada) (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 11:1, Sefaria (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Acts 1:11, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Catechism of the Catholic Church – Article 7, Vatican.va (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Jews for Judaism – articles index, Jews for Judaism (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Acts 1:11, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ CCC Article 7, Vatican.va (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Rashi on Isaiah 53:3, Sefaria (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ 1 Peter 2:24–25, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Jeremiah 31 and the New Covenant, Aish (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Hebrews 8, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Deuteronomy 6:4, Sefaria (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Numbers 23:19, Sefaria (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ The Thirteen Principles of Faith, My Jewish Learning (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ John 1:1, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Philippians 2:6–11, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Christian Proof-Texting, Jews for Judaism (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Jewish Bible Commentary (approaches), My Jewish Learning (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ CCC 115–119, Vatican.va (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Ezekiel 18:20, Sefaria (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ The Jewish View of Sin, My Jewish Learning (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Romans 5:12–19, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Deuteronomy 13, Sefaria (accessed 2026-01-18)
- ↑ Matthew 5:17–20, BibleGateway (accessed 2026-01-18)
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